Why do we love spring training? Is it because we’ve missed baseball that much over the last 4 months? Is it because it means spring is coming which means no more snow and ice? (Seriously, NC let’s get it together with the ice in March). Everyone reading this and everyone that gets excited about spring will have a slightly different reaction. For me spring training is warm sun and backfields of baseball in the Phoenix area. It’s watching super talented kids figure out how to translate that talent into production while still trying to figure out to be an actual real life adult. Many of them in a country that speaks a different language than they do while making less than minimum wage. (You can find more on that here).
This year, I spent almost all of my time in Peoria watching Padres prospects. Why? Because the Padres have an incredible amount of talent in the low minors. The Padres might be bad in 2018 but the future is oh so bright in San Diego. Peoria is also the only place that the big league GM can wander around the backfields without having a throng follow his every move. Everybody knows it’s AJ Preller in the gym shorts, t-shirt, and floppy hat but he’s there every day so nobody interrupts him while he does the same thing as everyone else….watch talented kids play baseball.
The following are assorted notes and comments from the 6 days I spent in Phoenix this year. I didn’t type anything up last year (and like the 3 years before that) which is unfortunate because I had notes on several players listed below as well as comments about Khalil Lee of the Royals, a player that I liked quite a bit in my handwritten notes, who is now fairly highly regard in the baseball industry. I hope that some of these guys break out like Lee did. You’ll note that I didn’t take a lot of video this year….mainly because my camera didn’t make the trip, oops. Last year’s videos are uploaded here.
Love the Padres kids.
I saw Fernando Tatis, Jr. for the first time in the spring of 2016 when he was a barely 17 year old who was a potential White Sox kid. That summer the Padres picked him up in a salary dump of James Shields. Tatis was the throw-in….and then in spring of 2017, he had added weight and was all of a sudden a monster. A future superstar monster. He’s continued to add weight and athleticism and last year he hit .278 with 22 home runs and 32 stolen bases while playing shortstop in A and AA. All at 18 years old. I need to repeat Fernando Tatis is a superstar. He’s big but moves incredibly well. As he has added weight, he’s added athleticism. Still smoothing out. He will expand the zone from time to time but mainly stays within himself. Will definitely work at short for the short-term, hands and arm are plus. May end up at 3B but future 30+ home runs with .280 avg. He could be up this year but may struggle with breaking balls down and seemed to be taking a few too many first pitch fastballs but oh wow is he going to be good. 2019 will be a big year, superstar in 2020. (Maybe I’m a little excited and it’s 2020 and 2021 but it’s soon).
Luis Urias will hit .320 if he has enough pop to keep pitchers honest. Is it 30 power or 40 power? At 40 power, he’s a star. Tracks incredibly well. Hand/eye is unbelievable. Body and bat control at the plate is superb. Arm may be lacking for SS but will be above avg at 2B and could play SS in a pinch. Worst case, excellent utility player who pops some huge babip seasons.
Tirso Ornelas is going to hit and hit a lot. Great swing, doesn’t expand the zone, good body. Has already added good weight. Ball jumps off bat. Haven’t seen him throw but moves well enough to be average in a corner.
Gabriel Arias and Luis Almanzar are a little further away offensively but both are explosive athletes. Jeisson Rosario fits in this group as well. Actions at plate for all are good but need more reps to determine how soon they’ll hit. Almanzar working at 3B in morning workouts but saw him play primarily SS. Arias played 3B. Will be interesting how this shakes out since Almanzar has the build to continue to add weight and could profile at 3B. Rosario is a potential impact defender in centerfield who has just now turned 18. The question on Rosario is how much he’ll hit and when we’ll know.
Luis Campusano is young but looks like he can stay behind plate. Initial looks at the plate were good as well.
Hudson Potts is 18-year-old who looked terrible in AA/AAA game in the afternoon and then hit a double in the big league game the same night. Oh to be 18. As the weekend went on, he looked better at the plate and more balanced.
I saw Edward Olivares, that the Padres acquired in a trade over the winter, and while he may play CF, I mainly saw him in a corner to Jeisson Rosario being in CF. Rosario is a future star in CF and I’m not sure whether Olivares will ever profile like that. Olivares did display above average run times but I didn’t see the offensive explosiveness of a guy who hit 17 home runs and stole 18 bases in A ball last year. Olivares would probably be a hyped prospect in some other systems but in San Diego’s system, a 22-year-old in high A ball is just another potential guy.
Videos of Arias, Ilarraza, Ornealas and Corey Ray from my trip are here.
The Padres also have the arms to complement the bats but the arms are all slightly older and generally without the super exciting upside of the position players. Many of the Padres high ceiling arms were throwing in a Padres prospect game on Tuesday, March 27th. I had to get on a plane that morning but only Padres personnel were allowed in to see the game. As such, I didn’t see Mackenzie Gore or several other high-end Padres pitchers. I did hear from several people that Gore, the 3rd overall pick from Whiteville, NC, is very special.
The first day, I saw Chris Paddack and he was 90-93 with a 6+ changeup. Both fastball and change have sink. Changeup was swing and miss and projects as strikeout pitch. Curveball flashed 50 but was timid with pitch. Still working back from Tommy John.
I also saw lefties Logan Allen and Eric Lauer pitch on back to back fields. I concentrated on Allen who is a sturdy lefty who was acquired by the Padres in the Craig Kimbrel trade. The Kimbrel trade where the Padres got a year of elite closer and then traded him for more talent than they gave up the year before to the Braves. Allen was 92-94 with an above average to plus slider that sometimes morphed into a cutter. He showed good control but was a little loose in the zone. He looks like a good athlete but he seemed to tire/lose his delivery after about 4 innings. Lauer was a little less impressive but he’s a 4 pitch lefty and it’s really just a question of whether he can get right-handed hitters out or not.
You often see people comment that the stuff was flat or they missing a mph on their fastball or they were a little loose in the zone during a bad outing. This is usually due to not repeating a pitcher’s delivery. That’s one of the reasons that scouts look a delivery and if it’s atypical from a big league pitcher then they write reliever down or they want to know if the pitcher is an elite athlete. It’s pretty common to see guys in spring training be inconsistent inning to inning with their deliveries. Perhaps the biggest issue that separates relievers from starters at the big league level is the ability to repeat their delivery over and over for 100+ pitches every 5 days. Big league pitchers, even established starters, can struggle to repeat and it’s usually the reason why pitchers are inconsistent from start to start. It’s hard to look at a 19-year-old and forecast that he’s going to maintain a complicated delivery…unless he can maintain a complicated delivery. It’s the reason that Andrew Miller is a lights out 3 inning reliever but could never start. Miller can’t repeat his delivery for 100 pitches every 5 days. It’s also the reason that I heard several people discuss Mackenzie Gore’s exceptional athleticism and therefore his ability to repeat his delivery.
Someone who can repeat their delivery, and who is totally different from all other players that I wrote up this year, is Robbie Erlin who I saw pitch again on a backfield. I remember seeing Erlin pitch on the same field 5 years and several surgeries ago. Erlin is a classic, command and control lefty who can really pitch but you always wonder if the fastball will be enough. The look last week looked similar, except he seemed to really get squared up by right-handed pitchers. In the past, his change up was his best pitch and he controlled right handed batters much better but he was definitely squared up by guy who might project as fringe big leaguers.
Another pitcher who didn’t repeat very well was Cal Quantrill. Quantrill was a top 10 pick out of UCLA a few years ago after he had Tommy John surgery in college. I didn’t love Quantrill when I saw him last year but he was still coming back from TJ and last year he touched 96 despite struggling with his mechanics. This year, he was more 92-94 and seemed to struggle with his rhythm through his delivery. In his 1st and 4th innings, he was more athletic and the timing of his delivery was better. He also threw considerably more strikes with his fastball. In the 2nd and 3rd innings of work, his timing through his delivery as well as his arm swing were inconsistent and as a result his fastball command was inconsistent and his off speed pitches were flatter. Generally speaking, his fastball was 92-94, his slider was roughly 83ish, and his change up was consistently a plus pitch. In his last inning of work, he settled into a combination of the two deliveries mentioned above. He wasn’t as athletic as he was in the good delivery but not as bad as he was in the bad delivery. Quantrill’s projection is all about which version of the delivery you think he will maintain going forward. The optimist sees a future 92-96 with average fastball command, a plus changeup, and average slider an athletic delivery and a possible #3 starter (above average). The pessimist sees a 92-94 with below average fastball command, a plus changeup, and a below average curveball on a guy who probably gets hurt again. If you bet the middle then you’re really betting he’s a #4 starter who looks great some days and terrible in other days. As usual the middle is probably the correct place to be but it’s not as much fun as saying he’s great or he’s terrible.
The last notable Padres pitcher that I saw was Robert Stock. Stock is a former catcher who is now 28 years old but sits in the upper 90’s. It’s a complete reliever delivery and reliever stuff but it’s upper 90’s, a plus slider, and this.
The Brewers top 3 prospects in AAA game on 3/23 were Corey Ray (terrible), Lucas Ercerg (blah), and Keston Hiura (!). Ray was a top 10 pick 2 years ago out of Louisville and his swing looks terrible. Ercerg is a 3B in name only and I’ve never seen the power than would excite enough to let him impact anything as a bad 3B or a 1B. Hiura didn’t flash much but for someone just drafted in 2017 to be in this lineup was a good thing. Hiura should be an offensive 2B and didn’t play the field. Not playing the field is concerning since many teams thought he needed Tommy John out of college after not playing the field in his 2017 college season. I also heard that Ray was being shopped aggressively over the winter but there weren’t any takers due to the swing issues.
I also saw the AA/AAA Indians team which featured a couple of interesting guys. Bobby Bradley is a big dude who swings hard. The question is how big and how much he’s going to miss. He hit a long home run in the game I saw him, despite a bit of abbreviated swing. I’ve always liked how he controlled at bats and the pop and he probably profiles as a guy with plus power that walks enough to keep a high on base percentage. If he stays at first base (a question considering he’s listed as 6’1” and 225 and probably heavier than that) then he’s a solid starter or at least a platoon 1B. If he can’t field the position, then he’s a bench bat who hopefully DH’s.
The other notable hitter for Indians was Eric Haase, a 25-year-old potential everyday catcher. Haase has played with Fransisco Mejia who has overshadowed him but Haase looked like a solid prospect in his own right. I liked his defense behind the plate and I really liked his offensive game. He made a lot of loud contact including a home run off of Quantrill and 2 other doubles in the game. His swing works very well and he walked 11.5% of the time last year so I think he’s an average big league catcher. Probably not in Cleveland with their current catchers and Mejia but probably somewhere soon.
The Padres share a complex in Peoria with the Mariners. Unfortunately, the Mariners have no prospects at all. When you cancel backfield games because you don’t have enough pitchers it’s kind of an indictment of your entire organization. It’s almost like someone in the organization should have realized that you need enough minor league players (specifically pitchers) for spring training. On top of that, the guys who are on rosters aren’t exciting at all. Their best prospect is Kyle Lewis and he’s hurt (again). Their second best prospect is Sam Carlson….also hurt. Their third best prospect is Evan White, who you hope is an average first basemen due to his good glovework and limited power ceiling. No depth, no explosiveness in the system.
I saw Evan White in one of the pleasures of spring training, the big league pitcher needs work outing. In this case it was on March 26th in the big league Peoria Stadium and it included Mike Leake, Ichiro Suzuki, and an assortment of minor leaguers for the Mariners and Rangers. Leake threw 7 innings for the Mariners and did Mike Leake things. He was basically 84-86 with a fastball that went in, out, and down whenever he wanted it to. He threw a big league average curveball, a big league average changeup, and worked fast with the same delivery over and over. Leake will probably bump up to 88-91 in the big leagues but he’s your basic #4 starter who just gets outs, over and over. He’s also an elite level athlete who probably could have stood on the mound and thrown fastballs between 84 and 86 mph all night if that had been the request.
While Leake looked like Mike Leake should, it was an event watching Ichiro Suzuki. Ichiro is an all time great but he’s also 44 years old and in his 18th season in the big leagues…after a full career in Japan. Ichiro did the Ichiro thing, he looked overwhelmed at the plate until he chopped a ball into the SS/3B gap and then beat it out. He hit it a little harder than the typical infield hit because he no longer profiles a plus runner and was definitely not interested in running hard on this brisk Arizona night.
The guy pitching to Ichiro was Mike Matuella. Matuella is a former Duke kid who has had several arm injuries and but still has elite stuff. He sat 95-97 with a curveball that flashed plus and a changeup that wasn’t terrible and held the velocity for most of the night. Matuella’s stuff is better than Matuella’s athleticism and his fastball command wavered as did his ability to repeat his mechanics. The fastball seemed to have some sink but was mainly straight and when he left it in the middle of the plate, it seemed to get hit around pretty well. Matuella has never thrown more than 75 innings in a season so if he makes it to 100 this year then it will be a big year for him and will probably put him on the cusp, if not in, the big leagues.
This wraps up the majority of the thoughts from my trip but going to Phoenix for spring training is always a joy and part of that is the baseball, part of that is the friends (thanks Mark and Kim), and part of that is hanging out with the baseball guys. The scouts and front office people have always been really cool to talk to and it’s pretty cool to talk to the same guys each year.
Oh and remember that Fernando Tatis is going to be a superstar.